Braxton Family Values Season 5 Episode 25 – ‘After The Storm’

On episode 25 the ladies try to move forward after their dramatic dinner went from bad to worse, and Tamar tries to clear the air with her dad but isn’t ready to invite his wife to Vince’s birthday party. Meanwhile, the sisters bail out on the party.

  • Sublime Exquisite

    towanda is jealous of tamar

  • Lucinda Brown

    i am 54 years old and I have never, NEVER, posted anything about anything. But after watching tonight’s episode I feel compelled to share my thoughts. Braxton mom you NEED to move on. Sixteen years….Hello. Did your X go about things the wrong way,way back when HELL’S YEAH HE DID. But it’s now. Your children have grown to be beautiful, smart,talented, strong, capable women. You don’t ever have to forgive what that man did to you (although if you can it would do tremendous good for your soul); but it’s time to let go of the past and stop putting your innocent children in the middle. Your girls learned from you how to be the strong resilient souls that they are; that means it’s in you; to move past this. You keep taking about FAMILY; but your X and Miss Wanda are family too. Like it or not it’s true. You have a daughter going through divorce, if she were to find someone in the future would you want her treated as an outsider for sixteen years? Do you want your grandchildren to have a life of always having to choose between mom & dad? I do think what the X did to you was way past wrong, but your children are all grown now and it’s time to move on, for them and your grand kids. You don’t need to be anything beyond cordial to Ms. Wanda, and the two of you only need to be in the same place at the same time minimally. For a class act like yourself that should be a cake walk.

  • Virgil Absolom

    Really? Is that even a question. She heard and agreed to the fact that it will be a family vacation consisting of the sisters and their parents. She should have told them then, and it aint the rest of the braxtons family’s fault that Vince cant do anything without Tamar.. Truth of the matter is she just like to take charge of everything.. And just like Evelyn said it was a braxton vacation – meaning she didnt want her ex-husbands wife there – why cant the sam apply to Vince.. He aint no Braxton.. And im sorry that he aint got no parents, but he is still not a Braxton..
    And dont you know that her father himself was sick at the time that Tamar was on her death bed.. Besides both the Braxton parents are old.. What do you think is going to happen if one of them die.. They had better come together fast, cause this life is evil and time aint waiting on anybody..

  • Inipow

    Thank you Sis

  • Prissy Missy

    You done preached it girl!!! Yessss!!! This man was more concerned with how his wife was feeling at that dinner than how visibly broken his DAUGHTERS were! That’s some lame ass shit!

  • Ashleigh Ayler

    Hey hun thank you. My point is at some point when will she let go. She keeps saying she has but it is very clear that she hasn’t. Where are her friends and other family that can be honest and tell her hey it’s time to let go for your kids and move on. Because even though her kids are grown it still is affecting everything in their lives including them moving forward themselves because to me it seems like they still aren’t putting a whole lot of effort in trying to forgive their dad. I know it hurts but after 16 years yes it is indeed time to move on. The longer she holds on to that it is going to be a weight on her. And no I’m not saying her pain is invalid but yes what I’ve been through I would indeed say my pain was greater. It’s no comparison. She got cheated on, and I’ve been through waaayyy worse things not only in adulthood but childhood that someone being cheated on can not imagine the hurt and pain. But I’ve grown and let go. So I feel like she should be able to as well. Sorry for the long message.

  • Sierra Vaughn

    How is Tamar selfish when she only brought him towards the end of the trip and it wasn’t selfish for the father to bring his wife. Idk what they expected for him to spend his birthday without his wife. How do you expect Tamar to feel when her father didn’t call her or even make an effort to come see her while she was on her death bed…

  • Inipow

    Flag on the play, offsides offsides! Me Wander into other women’s men pants has no grace or elegance. They don’t need to understand or accept his sinful ways. That’s his cross to bare. The sins of the Father have been revisited on the children hence their fucked up resolution skills and marriages. He owes all to them he had and still has a duty to inform their morality. Hell he hasn’t even admitted he was wrong he still talking about we had problems . All marriages have problems , doesn’t excuse you dropping your draws with the next bitch. He needs to be BETTER , recognize that some of that illness is God’s will because of his adulterous ways and humble himself before the people he wronged not try to force a relationship with trash box .

  • Prissy

    She did go to their church. She was friends with Ms. E, as well as, watching the kids.

  • Inipow

    I had to stand up and read this ! My prayer cloth done slipped off my lap thank goodness the ushers reached me in time caused I nearly passed out from the holy spirit!

  • Inipow

    Well look through some of these comments and you will find many a woman child who believes she should smh at the damn dummies who think she should sit with her ex husbands whore turned wife.

  • Inipow

    Thank you , words of wisdom from a grown women . Let the church say amen again and again.

  • Virgil Absolom

    Uggggh, lortt.. Evelyn be saying that Trina and Towanda be letting go of grudges, but she cant. She should be forgiving, despite of what happened..
    And really, Tamar is so selfish.. Thank god her sisters did not pitch for that birthday party.
    And I must say I love Traci and Towanda, cause they are understanding. Unlike Tamar and Toni who just wanna jump down people’s throat. Tamar should take her attitude and stuff down a thousand..

  • Inipow

    I disagree , imo it’s Bastard Braxton and his handling of the situation. Remember Towanda admitted she married Angry Andre because of their parents divorce and her trust issues. The Divine Diva Ms E is a women from a certain time and was also in the ministry they carry themselves differently . They did not bring other men over their children because they felt that when they had kids they live for them and that meant providing a better example than hoe hopping Bastard Braxton . Again I know it’s hard to recognize dignity and self respect in the time of the thot.

  • Inipow

    Dear Sister I’m sorry for your pain. But pain and grief are not timed,weighed or on a meter . I would never dare to judge that ive been through “worse” . Nobody gets to pull out a clovk and same ok your time is up get over it. There isn’t some scale or measuring tape that says ok yes you been hurt but she has 3 pounds more. Because she didn’t remarry doesn’t make her bitter. The widow who doesn’t remarry do we charge her with why can’t she get over what death did to her hell he been dead 16 years get over it. Having dignity and being unwilling to sit and kee kee and tee hee with someone who did you dirty doesn’t make you bitter or unchristian it makes you nobody’s fool.

  • Inipow

    Yes I only agree with the Tamar portion . The Divine Diva Ms E just has self respect . I know it’s difficult to recognize in today’s world of sister wives and thotness. If you want to apply Christianity see Ms E in the boat and Bastard Braxton and Me Wander into other women’s men pants as the raging seas. Ms E just evoked Peace be still. Just like God does not want you to be in a den of sin he also doesn’t want you in a sea of hurt. Sometimes you just have to have life experience and a little wisdom. As the old folks just keep on living sweetie.

  • Inipow

    True , I believe she should have discussed it but the rest of them are full of alternative facts. Tied tongue torn up Trina would not have brought her kids and neither would old Tow the line accept any old BULLSHIT Towanda because Angry Andre would have come as well. Tricky Traci is too busy wearing TRASHY wigs and drinking whiskey . Toni is too sickly and needed the rest as you saw to bring her kids , so no that was just a excuse to play the divide game. Vince has been to good to ALL of them to have been played like that . If they had honor instead of malice they would have supported her and discussed it later.

  • Inipow

    Agreed! If they had separated then he met Ms Wander into other women’s men pants and married her fine. Instead Mr Braxton started another family and raised another mans kids while barely seeing his because no one made it comfortable for him. Bastard aint no love in the heart of tnis city. His daughter is in the hospital could have died and you couldn’t come please . My father was dead and the Dr told my Grandmother that if she traveled it could kill her . She said the devil is a lie, and came in on the first thing smoking, real parents are parents until the day THEY die. He’s a sorry bastard for sure. Ms E never got closure because of the way it was done ,she is not angry but rightfully indignant. She couldn’t control that but she damn sure can control the hereafter. Michael on some old pimp BULLSHIT talking about Ms pants Wanderer sitting down and talking to the Divine Diva Ms E . Django get yo life. Mofo must be senile .

  • Inipow

    Yes they used to say “as long as he take care of home I don’t care what he is doing” . Well isn’t the wife a part of that “home”? So that logic was never very logical. Just another way of keeping women pinned down and oppressed if you ask me . But I wasn’t around so they couldn’t ask lol

  • Inipow

    Thanks luv!

  • revelation….

    True

  • revelation….

    And none of their husbands is coming back talking about some family trip

  • revelation….

    Wow

  • revelation….

    True… and she said he cried in the therapist office cuz he didn’t want to leave the lady…. that’s insane

  • revelation….

    Double Facts

  • revelation….

    Amen… also they never really had the opportunity to talk about it anything you confront later on this is what happens that’s why I love watching a young love iyanla… Old Wounds got to be dealt with

  • revelation….

    Same here

  • revelation….

    We learn something new everyday I do not want to see my husband’s new woman we’ve been separated for years but I don’t want to deal with her I don’t want him back but I don’t want to deal with her what does Wanda want a threesome

  • revelation….

    Good point…

  • revelation….

    I’m working on a children’s series you sound like a writer like me…. you go girl…. you are right

  • Inipow

    God don’t like sin and they say he doesn’t like ugly . Well Ms Wanda God is making you paying for your sin by making you UGLY. I blame him because he was married and also a minister but if he a dog then that Ms wanda is a bitch with rabies because she wasnt ignorant to his situation . Damn 90’s grown ass Gladys Aretha Chaka ass thot! All that she sensitive she cry whenever she see anybody else shit Michael was popping gtfoh. Btw why in the hell did they stay on that island when mommy left? Can we please get in touch with Beyonce’s speech coach and send them to work with Trina confused ass. Either that or we petition her to never speak on camera again. Gag order please. That little one looks just like Vince huh? That’s all I’m going to say about that other than thank God his parents have money.

  • Bri Truthful

    At all lol they just mad because they never had a “Vince” who name superceded their own. He don’t need to be a Braxton because he was always the “Herbert” 😄

  • Sierra Vaughn

    Exactly

  • AtlantaTasha

    Ahhh ok! Hopefully, because some of the words are really shitty. And as much money the sisters have why Ms E. don’t have veneers? She has old fashion polygrip dentures? 🤔

  • Niagara Falls NY

    And to have him marry the side chick 30 days after the divorce.

  • Niagara Falls NY

    I think Tamar is more hurt because their father didn’t come to 2 of their weddings and to only find out it was by his choice not his current wife holding him back. BUT… I will say that she most definitely over reacted about him not coming to see her when she was in the hospital because he was going through serious health problems of his owns.

  • Josie da Goddess

    If I was the side woman and eventually ended up marrying the man…I would not even want to come around the children and especially not the wife ever. I don’t care how many years has passed. For that, I got to give Ms. Wanda the side-eye! smh
    I bet she probably went to the same church or something with them and probably was married herself.

  • Josie da Goddess

    Yesss. I said the same thing. ..smh

  • Josie da Goddess

    Yes….I agree. It is very difficult to be around the woman who allegedly broke up your family. No one cannot understand that unless they have walked in Ms. Evelyn’s shoes. Their father was probably very dirty in the process of his cheating. I can understand if the wife and he met after the divorce and all….but she was a part of it all. He didn’t respect his marriage with Ms. Evelyn and their kids 16 years ago but now won’t them to respect his union with this wife as if they all have amnesia and forgot what he put them through.
    It’s not so much of what he did, it’s how he did. ….
    And I can tell watching Ms. Evelyn…for the sake of their children, Ms. Evelyn does not reveal all what he did and took her through.
    It’s like someone who stabbed you and now pouring alcohol on the wound. It’s like torture I imagine.
    We all have the right to choose who we want in our company and I do not blame Ms. Evelyn at all.
    And btw, over 16 years than past, now that new wife making like she is so sincere and sweet. But I bet over 16 years ago she had a totally different attitude! Smh

  • Ashleigh Ayler

    I agree with the Ms. E part. I too have been through horrible situations with men worse than what she’s saying he’s done and I’ve learned to let go and live my life it didn’t take me several years. I’m just saying to be a Christian woman she should forgive for herself and move on. As far as Tamar I feel like they are all grown, there was nothing wrong with what she did. She didn’t tell them because she knew their reaction but my thing is they are bitter. Towanda more than anybody she like it’s a Braxton family vacation not a Herbert lol sorry girl your sister is a Herbert and if they gone keep saying family vacation they need to shut up about it. It’s stopped being a “sister” Vacation when they invited their parents which also seemed like they were trying to push them together. Trina could’ve sent for kids
    Toni didn’t care, Tracy seemed to not really care, Towanda just over reacted and Trina followed behind her. I feel like they have allot more underlining issues with Tamar frfr. Like they are jealous in a way. That’s just my opinion.

  • Keivon Baldwin

    maybe that was he only time the family can go this year

  • Keivon Baldwin

    I only agree with the Tamar part

  • Andrea Berryhill

    Right!

  • revelation….

    People so used to getting over one man and jumping on another some of us don’t even know what it feel like to actually feel betrayed or being in love dealing with a man 20 years is deeper than some of our bootleg one year deal. I think he still love Evelyn and enjoys being around her any kids with his new wife as well. I don’t know many ex-husbands that’s pushing to be around their ex-wife like this his new wife might have been younger Is she starting to look Evelyn age God bless her

  • revelation….

    That make a lot of sense what you just said

  • revelation….

    An older woman once told me when they’re men cheated on them a woman allowed to say a word they were told to just be glad that the man came home at all I wish both parents to best but I wonder if he started cheating on his wife when the money started rolling in and he felt like big spender found him the younger woman that can worship Him even though we started out ugly at least they got married Joe Jackson showed his tail as soon as the Jacksons came into money started cheating on Kate Jackson

  • Thalia

    Evelyn is pretty n such a lady! Anything that’s stressful and draining… Away!!!

  • Thalia

    😂😂😂

  • leapyearpisces

    Daddy Beethovan(that’s not a typo-LOL) Braxton, wants him and Wanda for Evelyn to accept them, because that would absolve him of any guilt (and best believe him and Wanda feel PLENTY guilt, as they should). That’s ALL that it boils down to. He wants to a peaceful night’s sleep again.

  • leapyearpisces

    True. I have been through some very hurtful situations at the hands of men who claimed they love me, so TRUST I agree with the poster that basically said, after a certain amount of time, you are hurt, and angry because that is what you CHOOSE to be. Hurt, and anger are very hard crosses to bear, and it’s human nature that most of us after a certain amount of time CHOOSE to put those crosses down because they are too heavy and they prevent us from getting to where we ultimately need to go. Evenlyn needs to put those crosses down, so she can REALLY move on.

    The only fault I find in what Tamar did is that she didn’t let her sister’s know beforehand about Vincent and Logan coming, that would have been the courteous thing to do. I don’t blame her for wanting to celebrate her husband”s birthday, but that should have been a conversation with the rest of the sisters in which she TOLD (not ask) them her plans, so they could adjust their plan’s accordingly, if they wanted to, and Towanda imma need you to be Helen Keller when it comes to your kids, because for the last 6 or 7 years, all your kids REALLY seen mostly was the back of your head going somewhere. She KNOW damn well she wouldn’t be able to take her kids to Mexico and she is in the middle of a divorve. I am sure those kids can’t even leave the state of Georgia until the divorce and custody are finalized, so I’m making need her to stop.

  • Hair Lova 🌾👀🌾

    They don’t like Vince. Lol

  • Shayshaystar

    Thank you. Major side eye during that scene

  • Lovely Libra

    Amen Bea!

  • Shayshaystar

    Evelyn isn’t bitter or hateful. She’s probably just drained that when they were having problems and divorced he just ran away from their family. Now he wants everyone to welcome and accept the woman he was running away to. Like naw g.

  • Lovely Libra

    Tamar was definitely wrong for not discussing Vince’s bday with the sisters in advance…they all have kids and would have wanted to bring theirs too. I like Tamar, but she’s doesn’t treat her sisters the way that she wants to be treated. If one of her sisters did that, and she didn’t bring Vince and Logan, she would have snapped.

  • Kamo Brinson

    Thanks love ..it made me love my kids more then life itself…I can deal …my family feels I smother them but I dont care…
    I just want them to always love and know me ..talk to me and nag me..EVEN tho they be nagging af😒😬
    …it’s comforting 💆

  • Ashleigh Ayler

    Ms. E is still bitter and hateful and to be a Christian woman she doesn’t practice what she preach. Tamar is a great wife she does what she’s supposed to do. That wasn’t no sister trip they were just mad because they ain’t nobody to fly out but they kids and they could have after they found out Tamar family was there but decided not to. So expected your sister to leave her husband at home alone with no family (besides Logan) on his birthday. His parents gone, they both almost died and he considers y’all family what’s the problem. She even flew in his brother. I feel like they bitter towards her life still. Despite any issue her and Vince has had they still rocking in they marriage and is happy. This episode made me lose respect for the mom, Trina and Towanda. And I feel like Trina follow how Towanda feel all the time.

  • futuresomething

    I hate to hear about parents taking their relationship woes out on their kids. I’m sorry you went through that.

  • R C

    Exactly.. that’s what I was going to mention, exactly if Tamar is so embarrassed and feels so disrespected why she don’t use Herbert instead of Braxton. That’s her father’s name if she’s proud of it then be proud don’t be half ass

  • Pebbles

    I think she realized it to after she spoke, because she sounded crazy… talking about it’s Braxton only vacation .. rather she like it or not Wanda is a Braxton so really it’s her vacation too

  • Pebbles

    Indeed we are staci… indeed we are

  • kjazzy31

    I agree with what you’re saying but remeber Toni is one, if not the ONLY one of the sisters that are trying to get daddy and his daughters back together as a whole.

  • kjazzy31

    Same here and they should have come to the party. Pettiness at it’s finest. Sidebar: Not a Tamartian either.

  • Pebbles

    Staci indeed we are

  • Its Staci and yes its clear, we are entitled to our opinions.

  • Pebbles

    Stacie your entitled to your opinion..just like I’m entitled to mines..

    It would only be family business if your mother or father put you in it.

  • MyOpinion

    Yesssssss perfectly executed.

  • MyOpinion

    🙌🏽

  • R C

    Toni always looked pretty much the same as well as towanda and Traci. But I hear you they’re all shady in their ways but that’s thanks to food old momma and “pastor” ms.evelyn.

  • MyOpinion

    You felt that vibe as well 💃🏽 Glad I’m not the only one.

  • kinky twist

    Ms Evelyn’s bitterness over her divorce is rubbing off on her daughters ,and you can see it based on their marriages . Evelyn is still hurt after sixteen years notice she hasn’t moved on ,and got remarried either smh .. she claims Michael and his wife are miserable when clearly she’s very ,very miserable. It’s seeping through her pores lol

  • Kamo Brinson

    But all them have all the same surgeries. ..even the mom don’t look like she use to in the beginning. .hewas with her and married her before how she looks today..
    And as far as her wanting to be Toni why would u think that..she is one of her biggest supporters…and ok gay people love tamar and I do to..
    Reality tv is just hard to believe sometimes …like I said before tamar isnt on my good side all the time eather …but trina and townda and ev shady af
    Ev to her 16yr estranged husband
    And wife ..petty
    And trina and towanda miserable behinds

  • Shante’ Kaneisha

    i was asking the same thing

  • Wanda Braxton

    Tamar, its been 16 years. You want to hold on to the hurt at this point. Let it GO! You and Miss E. Wanda is his wife, flesh of his flesh, the two of them are one. The same reason you had to bring Vince along to this “family vacation” is the same reason your father shouldn’t be present without his other half.. & I that sucks that Tamar is so venomous that she doesn’t; allow Vince to have any friends of his own. All them “how you doings” at his party are clearly her friends.

  • R C

    Tamar is fake to me. Nothing about Tamar is real from her nose to her wigs to her voice antics to her analogies. Hair&nose= white girl, cause that’s how Vince likes them. Her attitude ad her brand= the gay community, cause they her biggest supporters. She wishes she was Beyonce slash toni

  • Kamo Brinson

    Yes I did..recognize that.
    They still don’t recognize Vincent as family but so quick forgive ms.wanda because why tamar still hurts…like they always do..
    Tamar is aggervating at times and it annoys me as a Christian she ain’t been forgive her dad and accept ms.Wanda trust me they all childish with that part but I still see the jelousy in these girls…
    They actually favor birdman more then Vincent .like be frfr..tracy str8 clowned him in his face …nothing was said ..tracy and tamar the real ones I’m sorry..it’s jus my opinion.

  • It wouldn’t matter if my mom was over it or not but everyone isn’t loyal. Carry on.

    P.s if my dad left my mom for another woman, it would be family business because yes that effects the children- less so now that we’re grown, but yes there is still an effect. Hopefully you said that because you are not a mother because if so… wow.

  • Pebbles

    This what I say especially when the views have been one sided and tainted.

    I think the girls want a relationship but the way thier mother behavior is preventing it.

  • Pebbles

    I would just stay out my parents business…

    I seriously doubt l!

    That my mother would still be thinking about her ex 17 years later. Shhhhh! My mother wouldve moved on and he would have been a distant memory.

  • Anjynyke Latrice

    Facts

  • Lala Marie Powell

    Traci not ugly

  • R C

    Exactly. She a trap queen that failed. She’s mad that she had the children and still couldn’t keep the man. Like Evelyn said that he told her when they tried counciling that he was in love with Wanda. Clearly Evelyn wasn’t over him and he clearly never was that into E. She is so bitter it’s disgusting

  • R C

    I don’t know if you notice. Tamar wantd the family to respect that she’s not ready to open her arms to ms.wanda but then catches a fit cause her sisters don’t want Vince there. She’s a hypercrits. She wants them to recognize Vince as family but she don’t recognize their ex’s as family and she won’t recognize her dad’s wife as family…

  • Kamo Brinson

    U right ..and yes I know he left and like he said after he left his wife he wasn’t welcomed.
    I know got a fact like I said in another comment tamar is vince zaddy,she basically was
    In the streets and in abusive relationships ..I never said he was a good dad .but if he lft so long ago please tell me why they keep pressuring him to come on this show??🤔…
    They bug this man,beg him
    Leave him alone then beg him ster he come to come around they mama…then make funny stupid comments like they tryna light the flame.scripted much??
    And they pick men like all women pick men..it’s just some men was raised right and some wasn’t raised at all..
    I just think if they don’t want to be apart of his family .move around
    Stop dragging him on the show.
    Live yall lives yall old af talking bout building a sister hood.they all was ok till this show ..they husbands begged for time,love and affection and told them this show and what they doing coming between think he their family..and still everytime they pack up leave the kids and head where ever..spreading all they biz,
    Spilling all tha⛾ and flirting like crazy
    just like their daddy did..tamar is like her mom .family at home matters more…

  • Bea Robinson

    I am well aware that Traci and Trina’s husbands cheated on them and that all the sisters have had dysfunctional relationships with their men. Does it occur to you that their inability to chose decent men might have resulted from the poor example set by their father? And Evelyn is right when she wonders why her ex husband is so keen to force his wife on her family. Sixteen years ago he decided this woman was way more important to him that his wife and kids and he left them to be with her. So why not just concentrate on enjoying his life with her? Why be so bothered about what his children think or don’t think about her? Why desire to have his ex wife sit and talk with her? You can’t push your way into a family, you are either born in or invited in and don’t expect to be invited in when you did your level best to break up that family.

  • Kamo Brinson

    You do know that all they husbands cheated on them right🤔
    U do know ev herself in the first couple seasons said the love been lost between and he was abusive in the marriage
    So what he cheated at this point
    Yall all cheated on ya husbands
    Trina sucked off a dude and said it wasn’t sex .townda and Toni stay in men faces.instead of they kids.Toni a good mom but😒⛱ …this is a story line
    Man gots to be ..
    I6+ yrs.tamar this is not of GOD at all.yall feelings should be taken out on daddy and mommy
    Not all whole new/old wife..she been here.been …..smh

  • Bea Robinson

    Braxton Snr wants have his cake and eat it. He had this woman on the side for years until his wife eventually found out and he made the decision to leave his family to be with her. In other words he chose her over his family. So for him to think that everyone, his ex wife included, should forget his lies, deceit and betrayal and embrace the woman he left them to be with just because he is now old and has a few health issues is beyond naive and selfish. His daughters are always going to side with their mother and not just because she is their mother but because they know exactly how they would feel if they discovered their husbands were stepping out on them. And I can’t think of a woman out there would be willing to sit and break bread with the woman who helped break up their marriage.

  • Kamo Brinson

    Tamar stay callin her sis
    (Toni braxton living legend)
    It just seems the rest won’t tamar to praise Toni for making a wat for her..

    No doo doo..Vincent the Herbert made tamar who she is today
    They can all stick to hating they dad because they mama sad and bitter still to this day.put won’t support your baby sister..🤔
    16+yrs that is crazy .ev bash this husband since day one
    She a older version of mimi
    Of ll&hh atlanta..Sept she actually had them papers.
    But they pops was said to be like micheal ..and mom just like Mike them mama ..lease that’s what towanda claimed back track seasons
    (Clutches pearls)
    They say they seen the hurt at a young age between their parents …

    So why have any I’ll feeling toward mrs.wanda?yo mama drove him away ..look at her she slick driving them away till this day.for too the camera she say she don’t care
    But for lil logan to diss that lady
    Like that,it’s stuff being said still….

  • Kamo Brinson

    ⛱☛🏖☛🏕☛🎪
    That Shhhadee!!!!!!😄😄😥

  • Kamo Brinson

    😂😂😂…
    I try to be as truthful as I can kay…fare ….but man remember tonya didn’t even have a dam house tI’ll she started doing this sho.

    And trina was holding on to Gabe for every finacial thing.even raising her own weird kids.

    Toni filled for bankruptcy twice
    And got called out by oprah
    For the name brand silver ware…

    And evalyn
    Stayed with tamar ..in a beach house talm bout (to help with logan )..
    And tamar and vince had everything since day 1,2,3,4 till now
    Almost lost a finger😆😅😥
    But I guess the scream saved it..but the bit coulda brought a new one and still be better then her bitter ass sisters

    Look back at the scenes when they have their kids ..kids answer questions like zombies.matter fact that all they on for is to question them.now u don’t even see any of them .but guess who u do see

    LOGI BEAR &HIS DADDY😍
    they dissed vince bk then to.remember tonya also did on social media.

  • Charm

    Dead!!!! LOL!!!

  • Reeree

    Why did they schedule the trip around his birthday? I know. It is a story line!!!!

  • Lancome Special

    I really thought these women were very smart, intelligent; however, the disrespect to their father particularly, Tamar is incredible, how she continues to thrive is beyond my imagination. Their father is an elderly man who made a choice to move on with his life his new wife. I applaud Ms. Wanda for her grace and elegance during the dinner. THESE GROWN CHILDREN NEED TO UNDERSTAND HER POSTION IN THIS MAN’S LIFE. To that end, he owes no one any explanation on his decisions. Whoppi Goldberg quote: “Let he who has not stepped in dog shit be the first to walk across the white carpet.” You girls must do better with your father he owes nothing to you. Love him and help your mother get through whatever feeling she still holds against him.

  • Lancome Special

    I really thought these women were very smart, intelligent; however, the disrespect to their father particularly, Tamar is incredible, how she continues to thrive is beyond my imagination. Their father is an elderly man who made a choice to move on with his life his new wife. I applaud Ms. Wanda for her grace and elegance during the dinner. THESE GROWN CHILDREN NEED TO UNDERSTAND HER POSTION IN THIS MAN’S LIFE. To that end, he owes no one any explanation on his decisions. Whoppi Goldberg quote: “Let he who has not stepped in dog shit be the first to walk across the white carpet.” You girls must do better with your father he owes nothing to you. Love him and help your mother get through whatever feeling she still holds against him.

  • U stated they might get to know her and their mother could lose them, I addressed that. Personally I don’t care how many details I had.

  • Charm

    There are two sides to a story. We only hear about how horrible the infidelity was and how it broke up the family. Last episode Braxton said he did not want to go home at night, that;s sad. What was the marriage like? What was Ms E Like? What was Braxton like? If they are not going to give the full story, stop vilifying the man 16 years later.

  • Bri Truthful

    I get it but their reaction was petty. I would have been upset with her but not took it out on Vince by not celebrating him. They are entitled to their own feelings but in my opinion it wasn’t that big I am a wife also and I won’t miss my husband’s birthday for anyone​. It better be death or a 911 call lol that’s just how we are.

  • Bri Truthful

    It was her husband’s BIRTHDAY! should she have told them yes was it that serious NO im just speaking based on my opinion and I feel like they just completely over reacted they acted like she just completely dismissed them and laid up with him the whole vacation no saying that the are not entitled to their own feelings but they just took it to far

  • Rokses

    Come on now Tamar sneaked her husband and son in, that makes no sense at all to make an issue of it like this.

  • Pebbles

    This episode was very telling..

  • Chantel

    In my NeNe voice: Ms. Wanda you might have taken the Braxton last name but hunny u are not Family so take percaution!!!

  • Pebbles

    That’s what I thought I heard so he didn’t marry her out of love , he felt and obligated otherwise he wouldn’t have marry.

    Y’all see how the truth begin to come out little by little cause all these years she hd the public believe that micheal was low down, in fact micheal has always been who he before and after they were married.

    Which mean ms e was fast and was an unwed mother .. see how stuff just start coming out

  • Pebbles

    Nope! Not the case… but I would stay out my parents business especially when I don’t have all the details … trust!!
    There are always details left out.

    I would be cordial to the new wife..we wouldn’t be the best of friend but I would respect her as being my dads wife.

    The behavior Ms E displayed I was under the impression that it was something that recently happened

    Not 17 years ago…. she still holding on to all the hurt and pain that’s why she can’t move on and experience happiness with someone else.

  • SoLoDoLo

    Don’t apologize! That def makes sense. I caught tidbits of random seasons so I seen the shade but never understood where it was comin from.

    It seemed deeper than sibling spats and rivalry. I caught other vacays where it was supposed to be girls only and Tamar brings Vince and the baby and the sister’s be pissed all over again etc. I def appreciate the breakdown.

  • DeeGee

    Girl I been peepin scene on Ev miserable self. She is the true definition of misery loves company

  • Fina Jalaya Rose

    The new nose is ugly. She was so pretty before

  • SupremeRose

    Tamar and her nude lips are too much for me to handle.

  • SupremeRose

    lol I’m just noticing these bitches got on a full face in the jungle.

  • SupremeRose

    If Tamar was really interested in Vince’s birthday she should’ve informed everyone when plans wetbeing made or made plans to fly out earlier.

  • SupremeRose

    Oh no baby I believe it’s God, your spouse, then your children.
    Tbh the situation has nothing to do with ms. Wanda but Daddy.
    Duh he played the main role in the situation. Period. He could’ve transitioned out of the relationship with mommy better just like he said.

  • Kamo Brinson

    Lol…sometimes u Gota shade the ones u love sis…
    😂all love tho,all love…

  • Kay

    I agree with all of this! 👏🏾 Ms E seriously needs to stop praying for Braxton and Ms Wanda for 2.5 seconds and pray for HERSELF that God heals her heart and give her the ability to forgive Braxton. The anger and hurt is deep and her face even twists up when she talks about them. People cheat, get divorced and remarried all the time, it’s life. And I can’t believe the sisters were upset that Vince came to celebrate his birthday like are you kidding me?! For them to not even make it to the party was petty af! The man lost both his parents and his wife is pretty much the only family he has apart from his sister so ofcourse he would like to spend it with her and his son. They’re petty fr!

  • AtlantaTasha

    Ms. E has a speech impediment 💅🏾. Seriously, I’ve noticed it’s since season one.🤷🏽‍♀️

  • Kay

    I like Evelyn but she is really coming across extra salty. People divorce all the time and get remarried and step parents are allowed around the kids and allowed to come to family events etc so it makes no sense her being so opposed to even being in the ladies company. It’s not like the lady is just a fling, she’s been married to Braxton for 16 years! That makes her family. Who wants to go on a family vacation and leave his wife behind? It makes no sense. If Evelyn doesn’t want to be around them for her own sanity and to shield her heart, that’s fine but she guilt trips the sisters and makes them feel like they have to stay away from Ms Wanda too or it’ll be a betrayal to their mom, which isn’t right.

  • Kay

    If you start watching from season 1 you’ll see Tamar always used to talk smack about her sisters husbands and make fun of them not having jobs and stepping out of their marriages etc but then she would get all defensive and angry when they even mentioned Vince, so it pretty much started there where the sisters felt resentful that “oh you can talk all the smack in the world about our men but we can’t do the same to yours?!”

    There was also a heck of a lot of tension between the sisters in previous seasons and it ended up affecting their relationships with each other’s husbands because obviously the husbands sided with their wives.

    Also, if you watch from earlier seasons the whole dynamic of the sisters has changed like Trina, Towanda and Tamar used to be so close and Towanda even offered to be Tamar’s surrogate in season 1 or 2 (because Tamar has a condition that makes it hard to conceive naturally) and then when Tamar told Vince that Towanda had offered that, they made fun of the suggestion saying they didn’t want their baby to pick up bad habits like Towanda’s husband and not want to get a job. So imagine how hurt Towanda was watching that back.

    You should watch from previous seasons so you can understand all the dynamics between the sisters. Plus, previous seasons were extra juicy especially season 3! Sorry, long post! Lol

  • Putting my 2 cents

    If they had their own man & in happy relationships it wouldn’t be a problem towandaman ugly ass stay hating

  • Kay

    Lmfao!!!! Omg! Why are you making me laugh till my sides hurt so early in the morning? 😂😂 This comment is hilarious and true! I was dead at “ima need you to stfu about your damn daddys damn life and protect your fingers from your husband” 🙈😂😂

  • Putting my 2 cents

    When you are married & your kids are grown your marriage should be #1 priority so I disagree with Tamar on that even though Braxton did his dirt Ms.wanda is still his wife

  • Kay

    Lmao I couldn’t have said it better myself! 👏🏾 They seriously need to let this go! I was 19 when my parents divorced and yes, you have that anger and sadness for your mom but then you forgive and move forward! It’s not easy but it’s life, people get divorced and remarry all the time. How long are you going to hold something over your dads head that he can’t change and that he has apologised numerous times for?! Especially when he is elderly and you know you have limited time with him left! These ladies need to grow up, they’re really acting like teenagers 🙈. And Miss E is delusional saying Braxton and his wife are miserable and just want to be in her space. No, they just want a relationship with the sisters too.

  • Kay

    What the hell, so Vince flies out for his birthday and it’s a problem?! I’m not even a Tamartian but the sisters are being petty on this one like the man almost died a couple years ago so his birthdays are extra special for him and Tamar, plus his mom and dad passed away so it could feel extra lonely for him on his birthdays without his wife. The sisters are being so petty and lack compassion 😪

  • Kay

    Why are these sisters dragging this situation? 😑 Okay, so your dad didn’t come to Trina’s first wedding…. He’s apologised countless times for that! He didn’t keep contact with you after he divorced your mum… He’s apologised for that and is there for you now! They need to understand that Evelyn’s relationship and betrayal with their dad is not their business! Some men are terrible spouses, but that doesn’t change them being a good father.

  • R C

    Tamar is such a damn hypercrit talking about “you asking me to be FAKE! And I CAN’T! I just CAN’T!
    She said herself that she wears blond hair bc Vince likes blonds “white girls”. She used to look uglier then Traci and now she fix that nose to look white. All her terminology she gets from the gay community. She wishes she could be “Toni living legend Braxton”… point is nothing about Tamar is remotely real!

  • R C

    THAT DAMN HAIRLINE!!!

    Tamar needs to take advice from her hairline and just put her issues with her father in the past.

  • Victoria M.

    Right! I’m glad I’m not the only one peeping this. It’s just not healthy carrying all that hurt, pain, and anger for years like that

  • DeeGee

    Girluhhh🙄… her old tail still wanna be the center of attention and make everybody else turn against the daddy like “Bihh,if you don’t getcho…”.
    Damn near 20 years of hostility for what? More wrinkles in ya face/neck? 💁🏾

  • cintj2006

    I totally understand that Ms. Evelyn was hurt by the way Michael left and divorced her. However, 16 years later, she needs to let it go. She claims to be a woman of God but displays so much hate for a man she no longer loves or cares about. Ms. Wanda is Michael’s wife and she should be treated with respect. I do not know the details of the relationship of Mr. Braxton and Ms. Wanda prior to the divorce/ re-marriage but after so much time, isn’t it time to say “I’m done and its time to move on”?
    As for the Braxton girls….. they are not kids. Toni is over 40. Come on now…when will you guys grow up????? Your mom and dad are not the first to be divorced and they won’t be the last. No one can tell you how long you should hurt for what your dad put your mom through but let’s be real. Your parents are both getting up in age. Are you going to spend the rest of their lives feeling, speaking and showing hate for a woman he clearly shall remain married to? You cannot change his heart. Michael loves his wife and he is NOT leaving her. He tries to do everything the Braxton girls ask for and STILL it isn’t enough. I am starting to wonder why I watch this show anymore. Under aged children do not act this inmature when their parents get divorced. To see adult supposedly intelligent women acting this way truly baffle me!!!!!

  • Matty Burnside

    Tamar need to fall back on the highlighter. Her body skin color with a gold head. Ridiculous.

  • R C

    I noticed at one point he explained that the reason he got married to Evelyn was because she came out pregnant. Evelyn knew he was a playa and tried trapping the man. In those day a man would have to marry a woman but as it turns out he never was that In love with Evelyn. She needs to hear the truth so she can release all that negativity

  • Kamo Brinson

    Tamar..now I love you in all but i’ma need you to stfu with this dramatic,emotional,high pitched,cry baby ass voice.
    Also i’ma need you to stfu bout you dam daddy damn life and just keep
    protect you fingers from yo husband.
    Christian BITCH FORGIVE DAM.16YRS and yo ma still I’m on this shit.all the bad shit she say bout him u would think her two toned face ahh would move on.DAM.
    .
    ALL YA MFS NEEDA GROW UP (T.D J VOICE)
    KNOWING DAM WELL YALL AINT CLOSE
    VINCENT TAMAR ZADDY .tamar was wild af back then(I read up on her cause she a pisces like me😋)
    But we are about family,
    THESE GROWN ASS WOMEN TRYING TO BUILD A SISTERHOOD ..they say this stupid bs all the time.dint yall tour yrs singing back up together?facts!!
    BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH YALL DAM KIDS.YA HUSBANDS DIPPED CAUSE YALL SPENDING MONEY FOR “SISTER ONLY TRIPS”..TF.🗣📣WHO GOT YALL KIDS BRUH??
    THEN GET MAD TAMAR sneak her “teddy rumpskins”and logan on every trip..Chile please Toni ass be on the trip
    And yall beg her to come out the room.
    Man Toni washed tf up((bankruptcy claiming shawty))((bird caller))((old music performin m.f))#still love her music 😬
    BUT ANYWAY
    ….read the credits.tamar&vince&toni name on this show.she can do wtf she want.
    Her aggervating behind..love her vinny and logan.they my family (in my head)😋

  • R C

    Absolutely. But if you’re able to step outside the situation and view it from every direction they would realize it’s not worth doing their dad like that for the next 20yrs (God willing). It’s pointless harboring hatred for the moms especially towards their dad and the woman HE chose.

  • I’m sorry that there is situation where you’d pick another woman over your own mother, I cant relate to that, I love my mom but to each her own.

  • Hair Lova 🌾👀🌾

    She never mentioned it and that was the issue. It was supposed to only be the sisters. Had they known she was bringing her family they would have brought theirs. I would have been tight also.

  • Kamo Brinson

    Chile where she been this whole16yrs.
    .

  • Kamo Brinson

    😉lol no problem.

  • SoLoDoLo

    Lmfao thank you

  • Kamo Brinson

    To sum it up..
    They all fake…
    Sept tamar😍
    anyway all these ladies have one these thing in common
    They all bitter broke dern near and divorced like they mama ((once again except tamar). .oh yea and
    trina .she so quiet now.
    but she cool or whatever she just pissed me off when she came for tamar being honest bout her very auto-tuned and everything else music
    ((She need some millkkk))
    They hate side pieces that cuff they niggas…
    There u caught up.
    Now im bout to watch this episode

  • SoLoDoLo

    New to the show. Can any1 tell me why the sisters do not like Vince?

  • Dayna Ariell Bowman-Paul

    Okay so y’all remember when they all went to Baltimore to their daddy’s birthday party? Where was miss Wanda then?

  • Dayna Ariell Bowman-Paul

    Okay so y’all remember when they all went to Baltimore to their daddy’s birthday party? Where was miss Wanda then?

  • Felicia

    I agree with everything you’re saying. Mrs. E. makes herself look bad and as the one whose trying to ruin everything. And, as grown as Toni, Tamar, Traci, Trina and Towanda are, they need to have a mind of their own and at least try to get to know the woman. What harm is that going to do to anyone? They are so worried about upsetting their mother or disrespecting her, but I don’t see how that is possible. Nobody is agreeing with nothing Mr. Braxton and Mrs. Wanda did. They were BOTH wrong and we get that, but holding on to that is not going to get you anywhere. As someone else had posted, that’s the reason why their relationship is exactly the way it is. They are all hateful, spiteful, and bitter. As for Tamar, I don’t see what the big deal about Vince’s birthday was. Had they not wanted to come then they should’ve been some adult women and admitted the TRUTH in not wanting to go. Instead, they all acted so childish and said nothing like always. They only express their feelings amongst one another.

  • SapphireRoyale504

    I’m so tired of repeating myself multiple times when I say that Evelyn needs to let that bitterness and resentment go. Mr. Braxton and his wife Wanda is moving on living their lives and she’s still upset holding on and hurting herself. How can you say that you’re praying for them but you’re not praying to God for yourself to relief yourself of all the things that are keeping you in bondage. This woman’s anger is like a broken record and I’m done with her repeating the same song over and over. It’s getting very tired. I feel that even though the sisters are upset with Tamar for bringing her family there but they needed to get off their high horses and put feelings aside to celebrate their brother-in-law’s birthday knowing he was close to death and that he doesn’t have much family and he needed that support from their presence very much. They’re so foolish!

  • Bri Truthful

    I think she resents him because it probably was over for him​ waaaay before it was over for her and he broke her down to the ground and it’s just taking her years build herself back up she just haven’t gotten all the pieces to herself yet

  • Bri Truthful

    I don’t understand why the sisters are so mad about Vince being there😒 I mean it’s her husband’s BIRTHDAY! they ought to be lucky she even came at all or didn’t leave early because i know it’s been many of times when I cancelled or declined events “nah can’t make it it’s my husband birthday” for that very reason. Especially in his cars when he doesn’t have much family and he consider y’all his family it just seems like it’s a drop of spite a splash of envy and a little sprinkle of jealously in the juice from all the “divorcees”

  • Pebbles

    Tracy is close with her dad & they have a relationship off camera as well. I believe that she has developed her own personal relationship with Mrs Wanda

    I’m thinking the women feel caught in the middle & that ms E may feel she will loose her daughters if they turn around and actually like Ms Wanda…

  • Akire

    That’s exactly what it is that was very shady of them like they have a problem with Vince or something. Also what grown ass women want to go on vacay with just their parents no spouses or even their own children.

  • Perry Reid

    Evelyn Baby-FIND YOUR PEACE! You do not want that level of petty and bitterness to be written on your ledger being so close to the end!

  • ZionLive

    Traci just riding the fence in confessionals but when she with her sisters she quiet 😂 Smh

    Tamar make up just irks my nerves! Why they do her face like that all the time. It’s always another tone from her actual skin tone.
    And why she always bring vince everywhere. She selfish smh

  • AtlantaTasha

    I kinda felt that way about her from the 1st season. She’s fake boujee, arrogant, over the top. And unattractive.

  • Victoria M.

    Exactly! I’m like come on now. They’ve been married 16 years so they’ve probably been together a little longer than that. Which means they’ve probably been divorced almost 20 years. Just stop it.

  • DeeGee

    She irks me w/that,like lady it’s been 16 years… 16 ! When are you gonna let it go? You’re too old to be holding grudges and resenting ppl over something damn near 20 years old. That lady ain’t thinkin not nan of a thought about Evelyn Braxton. 🙄 Conceited much?

  • Ashley

    Mr. Braxton did Mrs. Evelyn dirty, there’s no doubt about that, however he clearly must love Mrs. Wanda because he did marry her. Although it hurts, Mrs. Evelyn has children with this man. Sometimes you have to take your feelings out of the equation for the sake of your family. Just because he was a shitty husband doesn’t mean he was a shitty father. He should’ve honored his marriage, but sometimes things don’t work out. Not to say that Mrs. Evelyn doesn’t have feelings and can’t react to those feelings like anyone else, but as a devout christian she should know that you have to forgive others if you want to be forgiven yourself. No one is perfect. I strongly believe in karma, if karma hasn’t served Mr. Braxton already, you best believe that it will in the future. She needs to forgive him for HERSELF. She’ll feel so much better once she lets go of that pain.

  • Victoria M.

    Right. If anything, they seem like they want to move past everything. She seems like the only one miserable still holding on to it. I just want her to heal and move past it. It’s not healthy to hold on to hurt like that.

  • alexis johnson

    Tamar please you know he didn’t care nothing about his health Tamar just didn’t want that money to go away

  • Exactly they seem far from miserable. I would hate to see her bring that hurt and resentment to the grave

  • I don’t think it’s jealousy tbh . None of the sisters went to his birthday. I think it’s a lot deeper than that . I have been hearing for years that he’s abusive towards her . So it would make a lot of sense why they wouldn’t be here for him

  • alexis johnson

    I hate Tamar

  • Tahesha Jarmon

    These sisters always trying to find something to get mad at Tamar about. If you wasn’t attending they should have said I’m upset about your husband being here so we will not be attending the party. Yeah I get that it was not planned but still things happen go with the flow. SMH, I don’t want to say jealousy or envy but the more and more I watch them that’s what I see.

  • Lanegra💃🏽

    It became too stressful so I had to stop.. LOL Well that’s not all the way true because I go out my way to light up Love and Thot Hop Atlanta!

  • Victoria M.

    Oh ok. Makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

  • Lacy4u

    Right, last episode I believe Ms. E commented that Trina took out her braids and she said yes but she’s going to put them back in later. Indeed, after that scene was shown, she had her braids again until the final day of the trip. It’s apparent that they stage scenes to make it more dramatic. I’m always looking at hair and wardrobe so I see all the editing errors in tv shows, movies, etc all the time. It can be quite irksome to see sometimes, though. LOL

  • Lanegra💃🏽

    Yes it was way out of sync. I think last episode she said she wanted the braids but then she was back to the weave. I was confused but I just let it be. Reality shows are getting more and more disrespectful with editing.

  • Lacy4u

    Ok, so they want us to believe that Trina took down her braids to sit with Tamar & her mom before her mom left, then got her hair rebraided. On the final day of vacation that was also the day of Vince’s bday dinner that they didn’t attend, Trina was again sitting with Tamar with her hair back in the same (unbraided) hairstyle as it was when her mom left. Which leads me to believe that their mom really didn’t leave as they claimed but instead she just didn’t film anymore until the last day when she sat with Trina & Tamar. Otherwise, Trina must’ve had the fastest braiders ever working on her hair both nights because she didn’t miss out on any daytime activities.

  • Lanegra💃🏽

    Interesting way of putting it. I can see that.

  • Lanegra💃🏽

    O that was it? I was still waiting! lol

  • Lanegra💃🏽

    Not to mention that she was thinking about marrying the doctor? We know if they had got married, Doc would have been at all of the events!

  • Lanegra💃🏽

    Thank you because I was wondering why he has been absent. He use to show up for at least one episode.

  • thekeep itonehundred

    They invited him, but he said he doesn’t like to be on TV like that. which is why we don’t see him as much.

  • thekeep itonehundred

    I’m over Mr. Braxton with his selfish ass! He has no consideration for his family. And thinks everyone should forgive and forget. Only because he’s in the hot seat. His way of thinking is one sided. Because I guarantee u if Mrs. Wanda would’ve cheated on him, decided to leave him with the kids they made and start over with one of his friends. He would still be mad also. You can’t tell no one when they should stop feeling hurt. Ms. E was heartbroken and although its been awhile, ppl never forget how you made them feel. I’d still be pissed too! Because he abandoned his kids also and chose not to come to family gatherings. And then want to play victim when they get older.

  • Ashley

    I agree. I could see if this situation was fresh, but it happened 16 years ago. At this point, she just looks bitter and it’s not a good look. It’s time for her to move on. She shouldn’t put her daughters in a position where they have to choose between her and their father. A GODLY woman who is mature and secure with herself would sit down with the father of her children as well as his wife and put their issues to rest. If not for herself, at least for the sake of her daughters and grandchildren. No one is asking her to be friends with Mrs. Wanda nor does she have to like her, but at least learn how to co exist with one another so there can be peace for the family. She’s being petty…

  • Victoria M.

    Where was the brother? I don’t remember seeing him.

  • thekeep itonehundred

    I swear men never get why women are so upset and men play victim more than women or want u to move on fast asl. I really don’t understand them? And Mr. Braxton just confusing me more. 😐😫😡

  • thekeep itonehundred

    I believe she fogave them but she doesn’t have to be around them if she doesn’t want to. They’re still her enimies.

  • thekeep itonehundred

    If its a family vacation and it was suppose to be mom,dad,sisters and brother…why bring all the extras? You can’t have a cpl of days with just your immediate family? That would piss me off too. Every family function I don’t need to see your husband,wife,gf,bf,friends cousins.

  • Faithful Believer

    I agree.

  • Victoria M.

    Evelyn is bat shit crazy if she thinks that Wanda showed up trying to bother her. Lol. Nobody’s thinking about you! She needs to let things go. Talking about somebody’s miserable but she let one woman run her out of Mexico. I can’t deal.

  • StraightShooter

    Wow! They didn’t go to celebrate Vince’s birthday. That’s a little petty.

  • futuresomething

    I agree and as much as infidelity hurt there is no way on green earth my mom would have been okay with any of her kids excluding our dads wife from events. Their marriage may have affected you but they are adults and people make mistakes you just have to move on not for them but for yourself.

  • futuresomething

    Kick rocks.

  • R C

    Exactly. She will be alone forever. When she told one of the girls that why they come to mess up her life I realized she’s been manipulating her daughters their whole lives. Those girls werr forced to pick a side, that’s y Tamars ads can’t get over it. She feels like she’s cheating on her mother. And what gets me is that Tamar talks all this crap about loving her parents equally but never once asked her dad how he felt every time they picked a side or made him pick between his kids and his wife. She needs to learn from Tracey and learn to get over something that has nothing to do with her. Like Tracey said she will respect ms.Wanda cause that’s who her father chose

  • Felicia

    I am so glad this vacation is over as well. The whole Daddy Braxton affair was nothing major that I haven’t experienced within my family. My uncle cheated on his wife with another woman who he ended up marrying. She was upset for a good minute, but finally she forgave him and moved on from the hate that she noticed was building up inside of her towards him. She realized it wasn’t doing her any good and what happened had happened and nothing about it was going to change. He wasn’t going to leave his wife, so she accepted it and is definitely still apart of our family functions. My uncle and his ex-wife are friends and they get along better than they did while they were married. I understand that this may not be the case for everybody else because people handle every situation differently, but Ms. E. really needs to get over this, forgive, and move on. No, Daddy Braxton did not take his marriage vows seriously, but trust and believe, GOD has dealt with him and Mrs. Wanda for the infidelity and breaking up someone else’s marriage, family, and home. No one is going to know about it and they shouldn’t, but terrible actions has terrible consequences behind them. No sin goes unpunished. But, my point is, being bitter and hateful and angry all the time is not going to get you anywhere. The man has married this woman and your anger is not going to make him up and divorce her. The same way Ms. E. told Towanda and Trina to not hold grudges against anyway, maybe she should really practice what she preaches. And, the same way she prays for her ex-husband and Mrs. Wanda, she needs to pray for herself as well that GOD delivers her from all that malice she holds in her heart. In the end, I’m going to be praying for GOD to heal and mend their broken hearts cause HE’S the only one that can do it.

  • futuresomething

    Amen I dont see how people dont see this. She was in a loveless relationship with a loser and mad that Tamar got a rich man who wants to be married to her and provide.

  • This long ass vacation is finally over. And the drama wasn’t even as entertaining. The shocking secret at the end of all this was that Braxton chose on his own to not show up for Trina’s wedding? Girl, bye.

  • futuresomething

    I agree. When my mom divorced my dad because of his infidelity she was never bitter or spoke ill of him to us. It’s been almost 13 years since he passed and she still wont. If she does not heal from this she will be alone forever because she is allowing him to occupy a permanent space in her head and heart.

  • Candance Smith

    Im so over this, everybody gettin on Mommy, but why, his ass cheated on her! HE may have been the problem. Ppl seem to forget how serious “FOR RICHER, FOR POORER”, “FOR BETTER, FOR WORSE”, really mean! If u cant keep them vows, dont get your ass Married! She got every right to be bitter with his ass, HE MARRIED HIS MISTRESS N BROKE HIS VOWS! I dont care if its been 52 years, quit tryin to bring your Bitch tht YOU hurt me with in my damn face! I got NO kickins for her, ever, you better be glad i go ssome for u! God got somethin for BOTH of u, how about THAT!

  • I’m sure she’s crying over your lack of trust.

  • futuresomething

    She might not have told their father not attend Trina’s wedding but I bet she didnt fight that hard to change his mind when he said he wasnt going. I will never trust her.

  • revelation….

    Evelyn feels like a lot of our parents felt…. that generation at one time was not even allowed to speak up. Maybe she is just getting it out now…. he had very strict family rules while they were growing up of course he’s not upset. I personally think throwing stuff in people face by bringing somebody around is ridiculous she got past it a while ago but they keep bringing the situation back in existence I mean come on why she gotta be around his new wife…. Tamar is not a kid anymore…. But they are mourning what they loss because they were not allowed to speak on it years ago… Vince replaced Tamar’s loss

  • AndJuDontKno 2016

    They need to stop, their father moved on to a nice lady they should be happy for him. Look at the mother, mean and old ass upset because nobody wants that in their lives. All of them gonna be just like their mama, miserable old bitches..

  • Dana Butler

    Yes!!!!!

  • Dana Butler

    I believe that; she has that controlling spirit!! Mean as hell and then praising God!!

  • Pebbles

    That was the problem before … the sisters up & go on trips without including thier spouses especially when it’s clear it’s a family trip & not a sister’s trip if they’re inviteing mom & dad who clearly don’t get along ..

    Maybe Tamar learned from that and said forget that she wants to preserve her marriage

  • Pebbles

    maybe!

    It could be they’re privately working on thier marriage.. away from public

  • Lanegra💃🏽

    I can nooootttt I can nooooottt. Ms. E please let it go so the family can heal! Lordt

  • Polyn Shumba

    She loved his ass and treated him like shit. He bounced and she is still in shock 90 years later

  • Jessica Johnson

    I think that they shud just stop planning trips with both of thier parents its very clear ms e still havent forgave him an dont want be around her ex an his wife…an thier dad is clear on wanting to bring his new wife to events…..just do things with them separately…..2nd…..I get what tawanda was saying bout vince ..he aint gotta b there all the dame time…last they should respect thier dad decison about his wife an keep it moving ..Tamar ass so disrespectful…i wouldve showed my face an left an went back to my wife

  • Stylepondem

    THANK YOU!

  • Stylepondem

    Is it just me or does their whoooole story line seem very boring? From Ms.E down to Tamar. Every season is the same shit. Toni never to be found, Towanda bitter af, Trina accent comes and goes, Traci is just there and Tamar becomes more and more immature. I really can’t stand Towanda and although I also am not a huge fan of Tamar’s ego…I can honestly say her inviting Vinve is one of the most selfless things she has done. She was honestly putting her husband situation before her own. The sisters should be ashamed of themselves !

  • Stylepondem

    THANK YOU!

  • R C

    Thank goodness I didn’t grow up with a mom like ms. Evelyn. Having to live with a mother who was so bitter and who could never get over the father of her kids would be unbearable. I could imagine, they probably couldn’t speak highly of him cause she seems like she would get pissed the F off. It’s like woman you have 6 wonderful educated successful kids. Your daughters freaking Toni living legend Braxton. You fly coast to coast living well. Your kids have kids! Stop!

  • Lynnie

    I thought Towanda was the peace maker.. She’s the bullsh#t starter. Tonight’s episode is proof she’s jealous of Tamar & the relationship she has with her husband Vince.

  • Talone

    I wonder if Vince is still biting on Tamar’s fingers like chicken fingers, they hate talking about that

  • DORANDLEEKOUS .

    I can tell Ms E was not one to be played with, while the girls were growing up. She is stuck in her ways but it would be nice to see her have some closure with Michael Braxton & Ms Wanda. Ms E’s tone changes to hurt and anger when she talks about her ex husband and wife.

    Tamar needs to stop excluding the sisters in her plans to bring her husband, it’s not fair for them when they leave their children and husband at home, when it could’ve been an entire FAMILY trip.

  • Abstruce

    There goes Tamar… Making the trip about herself… smh