Black Ink Crew Chicago Season 5 Episode 9 – ‘Hope You Make It to America’

On episode 9, Charmaine organizes a protest against R.Kelly, and Ryan gets an ominous call for a meeting from the building management to discuss the future of 9MAG. Meanwhile, Lily uses her break from the shop to focus on her art.

  • Bella Vicious

    Right! This is to much!

  • Bella Vicious

    This is BLACK ink…. not Mexican ink….stop forcing this down my mf throat like wtf

  • QBee

    The chef was determined to get some camera time in with that intro…I’m sure next week’s preview is edited to the Gawd to make it look dramatic but I’m here for it.

  • PrettyNetty28

    Right..especially her beige a radio dis jockey.

  • Shhh

    So I’m confused…Lilly has been saying N*gga since she started the show and so has Cobra and Junior and every one except for Reese. Why is this now a problem??? and why are they only going after Lilly?

  • KACG

    I admire lilly’s apology but I think she should move her ego towards the side and apologize to each and every co-worker she offend. I also love how she reflected on herself and made the action to show how her ancestors were oppressed too. As a Latina, I also had my fair share of racism. It is NOTHING compared to the the black community, but I never understood it until it had happened to myself. Being judge by the color of my skin was difficult and caused a lot of insecurity and emotional breakdowns. I love Lily’s project and I wish I could have experienced it myself. Bravo to her for finally showing maturity and giving back to the community. I know she isn’t racist but she did use a term that does not belong to us in a negative way. As a Dominican, I can sincerely apologize to the Haitians that suffered from our dictator and suffer from the racism TILL THIS DAY. Lily, thank you for stepping up.

  • KACG

    Charmaine’s poor pronunciation almost got me to stop watching this show.

  • chiraq075

    Kys

  • Jennifer B

    This episode was problematic af. I’m soooo tired of Charmaine now that Ryan has moved passed the past. She’s doing too much … Lily, R. Kelly (not saying that’s not valid) but someone did mention she got a MUA for the protest… like what are you’re intentions. You’re doing it for the wrong reasons. You just wanna look good for the camera, talm bout you’re woke now. Charmaine hasnt always gotten on my nerves but as time progresses she gets more and more dumb as she starts to feel herself more and more and she looks like her breath STINKS.

    I’m happy Lily got to focus on her other art and do this exhibit. It was really powerful and love to see a deeper side of Lily

  • nessaflower

    I just want to say “These racist white people dont like a Mexican or Black person” Your ignorance shows when you become an enemy to the next person of color. They divided and conquered. And you still playing by their rules of division instead of seeing your common enemy. Go so hard against another poor non white person but aint fighting against those jews that own worldstar who bait you with race and let yall go at it in the comments. On Yahoo too, and various other news outlets because they own the media. Almost every jew and white person that this cast deals with uses the N word freely when they arent around, believe that. But you wanna take your fight to Mexican Lily. Charmaine is sickening as a Black Woman. She does not represent the strength, wisdom, intelligence, and cleanliness of the Black Woman in a good way. She needs to find herself.

  • Rosi

    I guess you still don’t have a tape of any of them calling people slurs.

  • Rosi

    She does not cuss out JR calling him the n word. Didn’t do it in Vegas either. Stop making shit up.

  • hennystr88

    How are you free when you all get re-angry when someone outside of the black race uses it? You don’t even make no sense lol. Let me ask you again, how are you and the future of the black race free after saying n*gga? If you took it back to be so free then why do you get angry all over again when someone else uses it? How is that not dumb? Make it make sense. Oh wait, you can’t.

  • Levelup

    She’s shooting the messenger, I’m sure if Ryan explained it to her calmly why it was offensive she would have gotten it. And yah, the whole damn shop let it go on for so long, Charmaine was adding fuel to the fire by bringing it up at the same time she brought up the fight..to get her kicked out. When she was explaining her art and discrimination and how they wouldn’t get her struggles, she had a breakthrough. I could see it in her eyes, she doesn’t understand their struggle just like they couldn’t understand hers.
    I liked how Ryan he was invested in her growth, I think I’m beginning to be too

  • Avery West

    Exactly!.. she wants clout sooo bad

  • Ruwth Naadira Derrick

    Erica Mena too but she buddy with her

  • Nit18

    U don’t make no sense. How is it dumb to take something back and try to free yourself from a word meant to bring u and your whole entire race down. foh. U sound dumb. I see either ur not black or just dumb AF. Either way, foh

  • Paige Banks

    nigga

  • KristalisaDiamond

    BET is white-owned, so try again with that one.

  • Carsha Lei

    charmaine plays cardi b records and she says nigga….arent her and liily the same?

  • KristalisaDiamond

    Not all of the United States was Mexico though.

  • KristalisaDiamond

    Thank you.. black people can’t “afford” to not see color.

  • KristalisaDiamond

    Once again Ryan is showing that he has no backbone, and is cool with Lily saying whatever she wants. Then his dumb ass explaining to this lil’ white girl about racist cops..Rachel, please come get ur weak ass boo.

  • KristalisaDiamond

    Once again Ryan is showing that he has no backbone, and is cool with Lily saying whatever she wants. Then his dumb ass explaining to this lil’ white girl about racist cops..Rachel, please come get ur weak ass boo.

  • hennystr88

    You took the word back, made it your own, to do what? Look dumb?

  • Paige Banks

    no one said ‘nigger’.

  • Paige Banks

    you watch fox news? really? are you black?

  • Straightshooter

    Stop talking to me before I have your ass deported!!!

  • Straightshooter

    Trump is 100% correct. Yall are CRIMINALS and coming here to cause problems!

  • Straightshooter

    Go to YOUTUBE and look at the fuckin criminals!!! They arrested over 100 Mexican CRIMINALS!!!! They’re not applying for shit JACKASS!!!!!

  • Straightshooter

    Go tohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpnFyLxr1qQ and look at the fuckn criminals!!!

  • Straightshooter

    Look at these fuckn criminals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpnFyLxr1qQ

  • Straightshooter
  • Straightshooter

    Here these MFers are but they so quick to act like this shit is made up!!! Look at this shit!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpnFyLxr1qQ

  • Straightshooter
  • Straightshooter

    Most are criminals and we don’t need them over here period!

  • Samuel

    Mmmh she actually does use it you big dummy pay attention!?!??!

  • Samuel

    Mmmh she actually does use it you big dummy pay attention!?!??!

  • ah

    He’s part Japanese

  • MChantye

    She is an attention junkie

  • Adore Nella

    lilly might be a lil crazy and shit but she is one talented female nd ryan needs her and he knows it

  • Nit18

    Who said it did all that??

  • LaNiece Robinson

    lmao..You know how he didn’t give a fuck.. If you called him a name like “boy” you were getting it right back…like border-rat, and a host of other names…

  • QBee

    Ryan looks like a Samurai in that pic.

  • bri mikel

    I liked that side of Lily. Jen looking mad at. Lol but I had an ex always use his daughter as a pawn was I tried to leave. Kept me there 6.5 years. That’s a cold move

  • bri mikel

    Charmaine u a punk for that. If it were a REAL issue, why not address it before this season? It’s clear u and are out to ruin this girl. It’s as simple as Lily chill with that word. It’s offensive. Everything doesn’t have to be so damn dramatic

  • bri mikel

    Exactly. Y’all allowed this behavior the entire time do don’t address it now. It’s clear that it’s not about race. She is finding a reason to get what she wants and of course the race card is gonna get everyone stirred up. If it were a REAL problem it should HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED seasons ago

  • Straightshooter

    You still have to apply dumbass!!!! And most are just using that as an excuse to get over here anyway. Most aren’t running from a damn thing.

  • Maecl Lourde Romaneo

    Will Phor stop advertising his stretched out bootyhole to London on The Track? Join us on the next exciting episode!

  • Clayne Rojano

    Nah, Lilly dont “get it”. STOP USING THE WORD

  • chiraq075

    I know Ryan and van in real life clown not on tv..see..like I just called u a clown

  • Zarah

    Seeking asylum is not illegal and unfortunately that’s the way many asylum seekers come in because they are hiding and/or lost everything including family members.

  • daniella

    Lily’s pride will kill her. She can’t even take responsibility for her actions to the extent that she would rather not return. Be gone with the wind then

  • Jon doe

    Shutcho ugly duckling ass up you dumb STUPID get on somewhere wit yo ugly ass you should of took that picture of you a lil more back scared the shit out of me!!!!

  • Straight shorter one dum winni

    mayne I would love to run in to a dumb idiot like you in the street straight beat the brakes off you ignorant ass racist ass MF go on somewhere wit Charmaine’s stupid ass to that dumb thot don’t even do shit at the shop and the little shut she try’s to do she fucks it up y’all stupid foreal foreal!!!

  • Maecl Lourde Romaneo

    Anybody else found the girl hosting the exhibit to be hilarious? She was like welcome to Mexico! There are 3 ways to die here on your way to America, Good luck, get going, there are other people waiting! LOLOL
    Her voice was so monotone!

  • Sandra Molina

    Lily stop using that word. big girl just stop ✋ wat Charmaine gonna use as an excuse if u stop.. laugh it off…. smile n laugh it off keep in mind -bahaha wat that girl gonna say now she gonna show her ugly

  • kaib

    She did last season when they fight they even play it back to show.

  • Sandra Molina

    This shit stupid

  • Sandra Molina

    They cross cause like Africans they have no choice they were forced off their land this was Mexico once remember that

  • Sandra Molina

    Ur right about the struggle but not about the way we view each other

  • Prive

    Ignortant and rascist are not the same thing. But yeah that white woman comment was stupid asf. I don’t know Lily personally to say she is not maybe she is. I just found it strange for a rascist to willingly work, be friends and make out with the race they are rasisct towards so that is why in my opinion I think she is just stupid af.

  • Mademoiselle Goldie✨

    Yuuuup agreed

  • John Smith

    Correct the word nigger shouldnt even b used between us black people. I dont allow any type of human to call me nigger no way

  • Su Ja

    whyis she racist. That Lilys body is built like a mini fridge is a damn fact

  • Su Ja

    Ryan is an idiot

  • hennystr88

    Lord. Latinos are from LATIN AMERICAN. Spanish people are from SPAIN. Hispanics are all people who SPEAK Spanish.

  • Su Ja

    How the fuck can you not see colour when the world wont ever let you forget what the colour of your skin is. Wether it is when ooking for a job, walking in an expensive store or being stopped by the police for no reason.

  • tink564

    she’s annoying I’m so sick of seeing her on the shows she only comes around wen Ryan gets new opportunities and the fact that he keeps taking her back just to b used is pathetic

  • Sable

    Well the N word originally comes from Ethiopia and is used to describe a king it’s original spelling is Negua the white man didn’t like the pride we had so they stole it and wanted us to be ashamed so they came up with Nigger meaning ignorant we took back our title and now say Nigga which is closer to the original showing we have no shame only strength and have overcome as brothers and sisters in the same struggle. It’s all about knowing the history of the word

  • Sable

    Well the N word originally comes from Ethiopia and is used to describe a king it’s original spelling is Negua the white man didn’t like the pride we had so they stole it and wanted us to be ashamed so they came up with Nigger meaning ignorant we took back our title and now say Nigga which is closer to the original showing we have no shame only strength and have overcome as brothers and sisters in the same struggle

  • Tea Tastes Oh So Good

    You must be a paedo just like him. A 20 something year old Charmaine is old? Wow

  • Rae York

    Period. That we are all in the same boat shit is so far fetched.

  • Rae York

    It doesn’t matter, you stupid bitch. She said it. And she needs not to.

  • Sandra Molina

    Dang people is fucking racist for real BULLSHIT ASIDE I just made a few Mexicans black and middle eastern friends wtf is wrong with yall?!? I don’t see color I love my black friends as much as I love my Mexican friends I really really don’t see color just in my paintings I’m 26 you this is sad to me don’t nobody got tolerance anymore I have three kids my daughter 4 knows better and acts right than y’all she’s friendly I have taught her don’t matter the color of the persons skin go out there and make friends of all backgrounds

  • Jus post my damn comment

    Charmaine sit cho ass down r kelly dont want yo old ass. They tried to ride R kelly wave

  • ImJustMe

    Ryan @31:50 omggggg <3 <3

  • Jus post my damn comment

    Some people chose the journey into America, some people had no choice and were dragged across the Atlantic without a choice.

  • Straightshooter

    So was Lily using the N word so we even and Fuck you!

  • Ama

    Ignorant ass comment

  • Straightshooter

    If Mexicans came in legally, they you wouldn’t be dying in tunnels and desserts!!!!! If you can’t come through the front door, stay your ass in Mexico! #unfuckingbothered #unfuckingmoved Too bad Lily ass made it in. Sorry not sorry. She has been bullying and trying to take Charmaine’s place ever since she got there. I don’t like nothing about Lily!

  • Straightshooter

    I don’t see him as black. He look like Aladdin. I don’t know what he is. He’s probably torn because he’s mixed but he should know better.

  • Straightshooter

    Whateva that means. This is bigger than this show.

  • Black swan

    Well then they smart huh you just a hating ass winni wishing you had a opportunity like them!!

  • Straightshooter

    That’s NOT racism. That’s predjudice. Please try to keep up

  • Black King

    Well he smart then huh don’t be hating cus yo ass broke hating ass winni

  • Kira Uchiha

    Truth be known, both Black and Latino people are racist against darker skin people in their own families. All of which contributes to our weaknesses, If we banned together we could make a big difference for future generations, no one is all that alone.

    One thing that makes White people powerful, is that they stick together no matter what.

  • Straightshooter

    Right! You can tell Jr stick with his kind. They all just using the blacks on this show for a come up.

  • Kira Uchiha

    IT DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE HOW AND WHO The N word is used, if u know the historical fact on how the word was created to describe the scum of the earth of whom could be bought, sold, beat or killed on a whim??? My mind is unable to understand how the N word has somehow been given a new meaning???
    Yes, Some Latinos believe they ars superior to Blks., but in reality people we are in the same boat, dealing with the same everyday bull!!! This is why the gov has so much power over all us and we are to busy fighting amongst ourselves to pay attention to our own self destruction. If we do not ban together, then we ‘ll become very stupid N It is a crying shame that such a derogatory word can have friendly overtones!!!

  • Cynthia Oiwo

    Every time Rachel shows up, something drastic happens.

  • Cynthia Oiwo

    Why is it that when Rachel shows up things change?

  • Yerrrrd

    True and since when have Charmaine and Junior start hanging together??? Fake shit!!

  • Yerrrrd

    These BI Chicago motherfuckas are emotional as hell!
    Van is a fraud and he’s gonna keep cheating with his fat muscular ass…run Jen!
    Charmaine .talks too fucking much even though it seems like she means well she’s just trying so hard to be relevant and it’s annoying AF!
    Lily’s art exhibit was very creative, but she still a crazy bitch that aint got no business saying nigga period!
    And where the fuck did Rachel come from and where the hell is crying Ryan going…emotional ass I guess I gotta wait till next week lol

  • Cynthia Oiwo

    Lilly just stop using the N word. I will say that I am proud of you on show casing what many people do not know about Mexican people struggles. We should all choose LOVE and not HATE. Be great at whatever you do.

  • Black ink baby

    DOPE!!!

  • King Jon

    Now you being racist dum bitch lol you dum foreal

  • King

    You being racist your self big dummy lol wat a dumass

  • Nihi the dummy

    Now this bitch acting racist lol but wanna y’all shit about other people saying they racist bitch plz u dum da dum da dum da dum stupidddd

  • Nihi the dummy

    Now this bitch acting racist lol but wanna y’all shit about other people saying they racist bitch plz u dum da dum da dum da dum stupidddd

  • Nihi the dummy

    Now this bitch acting racist lol but wanna y’all shit about other people saying they racist bitch plz u dum da dum da dum da dum stupidddd

  • Black ninja

    This bitch stupid foreal y’all need to get on somewhere wit all this bullshit

  • Nicole Shaw

    Real shit. Her and Charmaine really irritate the shit out of my soul.

  • Mademoiselle Goldie✨

    See that’s the fucking problem with black people and their selective mentality!

    If you’re gonna let a Caucasian say nigger only because they grew up around black people you have no fucking right to get upset if some next random Caucasian say it. Then you wonder why some people don’t take our outrage seriously! It’s because a lot of us are too selective! Keep that same energy! If that’s your friend let them know it’s never okay to say nigger NEVER! Period.

    I’ve got a few white friends and they’ve been around black people a whiiiiiile and never said nigger! Fuck what happens in their homes, but they would never dare say it around us! Because they know what’s up! It’s just never okay man.

  • Straightshooter

    I can’t stand that hoe!

  • Straightshooter

    Uhm let’s not use this episode to make it look like Blacks and Mexicans are on the same team because that’s bullshit!!!! Mexicans hate blacks! Always have always will. Although Mexicans are impoverished, they see blacks the same way whites see them. Let’s keep this shit 100!

  • Nicole Shaw

    Not gone lie lilly art show was dope

  • Nicole Shaw

    And i hope they keep that same energy towards junior because he says it left and right too

  • Nicole Shaw

    Oh god lilly u stfu too. If u feel that strongly about shit quit. Damn. Bitch all last season u was swinging on bitches left and right and u wonder y ppl got it out for u.

  • Nicole Shaw

    Okay 5 minutes in, and already my stfu charmaine mode is in full affect

  • Kudi

    I really hope that cop scene was not staged cause now thanks to Jussie Smollett Ive started looking at this ”THEY DONT WANT TO SEE US SHINE” monologue a little different and this is Big fish production so I don’t expect more from them

  • Kudi

    Vanessa will keep behaving the way he behaves, Jen is stupid. Ryan made sense this entire episode. Charmaine you need to calm down and focus on your radio career

  • @Lil_Ce32

    shut the fuck up lily ain’t racist and if Ryan goes the whole show goes too. DUMB ASS.
    How bout charmaine can take her ugly ass somewhere cause she don’t do nothing anyway but start shit.

  • hennystr88

    Internalized racism is REAL!

  • Santana

    Okay after watching the entire episode I do understand what Lily is saying,but please know our struggle is not her struggle and they shouldn’t be compared! If they asked you not to say the word just don’t and if she has an issue with them saying something or whatever stereotype she was referring too, they should respect her feelings as well! What is missing from the group is RESPECT!!!

  • hennystr88

    Comparisons of hate, pain, and struggle doesn’t make much sense to be. What are we comparing? The number of people who were lynched, necklaced, and raped? How can you compare this? Those people are not just statistics. They were all human beings who didn’t deserve the treatment they got. Hate is hate. You should be smart enough to know that using the word N has done nothing, absolutely nothing to combat racism and inequalities. Yet, here you are, clinging onto it for dear life. In hopes that it will make you feel better about the disadvantages you and your children will face. It’s actually sad.

  • hennystr88

    First of all, you do not know my race. Please do not come at me from a place of assumptions and judgement. It is unproductive discussion. Second, my comments are out of deep thought and logic; not emotion or personal journey. Which brings me to the problem. You must remove yourself and not be part of something to logically understand it’s problems. When you are living in something then you are far too detached from seeing things for what they actually are. Third, you are free to live in complexity, anger, and admiration of the word. HOWEVER, this makes it okay for others to use the word. Because now, they are just as confused as you are. Your complexity on the issue leaves room for someone to take hold of it. If that angers you then it shouldn’t be used. I think black people should hold more discussions on the word. Maybe that can be a takeaway from our conversation. You can hold a talk on the usage of the N word. Though, I would advise you to strengthen your argument because the points were extremely premature. “That’s it” and “Bc you’re not black” wouldn’t hold well in an intellectual discussion.

  • Rosi

    Did she call JR the n word all those times she cussed him out? NOPE

  • hennystr88

    Maybe some people are obsessed with black culture and use it for that reason. But that’s not entirely true. When you grow up in the slums there is a sense of community. Community’s use the same lingo. If you live in a poor area it doesn’t matter what race you are. You become your environment. No one will get mad at the other for using certain words. If I wanted to say the N word growing up around my black friends who used it casually. No one would come at me. But if I went to another community where no one knew me and said it. It would def be a problem. Guess where the problem could have ended or rather, never started? My black friends from my community never using it casually.

  • hennystr88

    Thank you. Some people just do not understand or want to admit that they hold their own race back.

  • NiHi

    Lily needs to take her bad built, no talking, racist ass to Telemundo where she can ride for her people and call us niggas as much as she wants. Ryan’s ass can go too. I hate both of them!

  • hennystr88

    And what has it done to combat racism in America?

  • ThaRealMrsPeterson

    I’m so happy someone finally told her to down grade the ghetto. Now all someone has to do is tell her to get every color in that curly weave because all those other wigs are a hot mess

  • Sierra Vaughn

    I already knew Ryan would leave them again as soon as Rachel came back in the picture…. At least they will still have their space to tattoo. If there was nothing wrong with how Lilly talk then how come the producers never showed it???? I think Lilly is some what racist because the way she used the word she was trying to talk down to Van and Jen when she used the word but I never heard her say nigga in any friendly way…. I’m glad Lilly won’t be coming back because all she did was fight and start drama.

  • I’m a Gorilla But Lighter

    lmao ok

  • Paige Banks

    wait, i truly believe that she would. she uses it as an adjective for people.. i do think she should stop using the word cos some people genuinely are offended by it. charmaine is not one of those people though.

  • Russell Smith

    Dont you think that was just an excuse too though. He didn’t want to completely demote her yet cause he knew that was too much to do for something so little but she gave him another excuse to by just being upset about it. Anyone would want to argue a case for your job, especially after one mistake.

  • Rosi

    Yeah, I’m sure you are…

  • Rosi

    Oh I thought he picked a side a long time ago when he kicked the blacks out and hired Lily, Cobra, JR, Gina and that white crackhead looking dude

  • Justmadeanaccount2

    It’s all fake. There’s actually a large VH1 sign in the hall. They are the true owners of that building and they created the Loyal Ink/9Mag story line. Apparently the new shop Ryan has is his real shop but the story of the “landlord” giving him the space is probably fake too.

  • Rosi

    And she’s not that good an artist

  • Rosi

    Cuz Ryan’s banging her.

  • Rosi

    Really, Charmaine has a man body? With big hips, big breasts and a big ass? But what kinda body does lily got with her spongebob squarepants ass?

  • Rosi

    You should be smart enough to know that American racism is built on anti-black hatred, not anti-Latino, not anti-Asian, not anti-Jew etc. Yes hate against those groups exists, but they are NOT the same as anti-black hatred, which is the foundation of racism in America.

  • Rosi

    No everybody doesn’t have a lil hate in them. And call me when you have a tape of any of them cussing out some Mexicans, Arabs, Asians or white ppl while calling them slurs.

  • Rosi

    So if she was cussing out some white Mexicans or white Americans, you think she’d be using the n word? Hell no

  • Love ♋

    Charmaine u cool n all, but u not a Chicagoan. U from the N.O…..

  • SpiceGirl

    Was just here for the comments…will be watching tonight

  • SpiceGirl

    Not a damn thang!! But run around naked

  • Paige Banks

    ..like you just did with me? tf is wrong with you?

  • Nit18

    Yea I get what your saying.

  • Paige Banks

    charmaine is a sellout. i feel she’s a white woman inside and it’s not cos she’s educated, and cos she’s educated AND she chooses to act like a dumb ghetto uneducated fool. like she thinks that’s what being a black woman is.

  • Nit18

    I was gonna say something like this. Dumb or not we took the word back and made it Our own.

  • Paige Banks

    are you talking to me? or yourself lmao

  • kneesee

    THANKKKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • kneesee

    But they dont use that either. Thats the ignorance in it. Why we the only race that uses a derogatory term and expect others not to say it when its in all the song and etc. That is stupid TO ME. If you dont want the term used then dont say it PERIOD. Stuff is just IGNORANT as hell.

  • kneesee

    Thats BS tho. If we dont want ppl to use it then we should stop using it PERIOD. We are the only race that comes up with bull. No other race is calling themselves a derogatory term and then telling other ppl they cant say that. Its pure ignorance to me. We put it in our songs and etc and expect ppl not to sing along??? Thats crazy. And if the term was reused to uplift then why is a problem when its used? Personally I dont like the term PERIOD. And if they did want to use the “we turned to up lift”then make up your mind. It was the term NIGGER anyway and not NIGGA. To me its a difference and if we as a culture is now going to encourage the use of it, then STFU.

  • kneesee

    lol

  • Paige Banks

    but she’s not using it in a racist way, and seems to be genuinely thinking it through rather than giving an immediate fake apology.

  • Paige Banks

    she did apologise…didn’t you watch the episode?

  • Paige Banks

    van is a jealous bitch who happens to be a man

  • Paige Banks

    i like lily. i don’t get the hate, i was all for her beating danielle’s ass especially, and charmaine’s. the show was boring as fuck until she did that shit lmao

  • GG

    Ryan is a classless coon and I can’t stand his ignorant ass. He gets uglier and uglier each episode to me. He’s gonna teach his sons the same bs and then here comes another generation of ignorant ass black men smfh

  • Natasha A

    What Charmaine does at 9Mag?

  • Paige Banks

    if ryan really shot up the shop the landlord would never allow him back. so i think the producers keep trying to promote this lie and charmaine’s dumb sellout ass helps them tell it at every opportunity.

  • GG

    Right! They’re so damn angry and bitter lmfao

  • Paige Banks

    i’m so glad ryan didn’t fall for charmaine’s bullshit with lily..she did the same thing to him and turned van against him too. and cobra.

  • Paige Banks

    oh u already said what i said. lmao

  • Paige Banks

    i don’t disagree but i will say it is different because ‘wetback’ and ‘spic’ are never used as terms of endearment or an adjective for person. those are solely racist.

  • GG

    Exactly! If only black men defended us the way white men defend their women. Chile…we would never have to get our hands dirty or raise our voice one octave smh

  • Paige Banks

    WOO!

  • Paige Banks

    hashtag charmaine is an aunty eleanor. (it took me a while to think of a female equivalent of uncle tom)

  • Tiffaney

    I don’t feel one ounce of sympathy for Lily. She’s kept up s*it since day one. Karma is just coming back around and giving her the same energy she’s put out.

  • EBONY

    Van is a professional time waster lmao, i thought he was going to come with a ring, just a romantic dinner is all she got and some dick probably. Damn

  • hennystr88

    There’s nothing beautiful and positive about the n word. But you can only see that when other races use it. There’s nothing unique about the n word either. I grew up in the hood. Ive seen African Americans use the N word after every sentence. Never did it sit right with me. It doesnt sound beautiful or positive. This is the problem. You cannot expect the word to change while you sit back watch. You can’t expect people to respect your race when you don’t. This is why most other races do not use their slurs. Japanese, Chinese, Jewish. They all have deep pride in their race and it shows.

    I do not agree with your comment on the B word either but I’m going to ignore it because that has no place in this discussion. We are speaking about racial slurs.

  • Erica PlayMiNot Milian

    She ain’t gon be done till he give her HIV smh

  • Nia Nicole

    Same shit, different week…”my brand”; “we growing”; “we family”…..STFU!

  • Nia Nicole

    Thank you so much! When Don flipped the table, Ryan walked by like nothing happened. They’re all phony as shit!

  • EBONY

    WELL SAID

  • hennystr88

    Blacks are the only race who chose to use the word as a term for endearment. Therefore, you need to be mad at your own for “taking the word back”. Spanish, Latins, etc do not use wetback casually. Whites do not use cracker casually. Those who do use those words always use it as a slur of racism or as a terrible joke. NEVER as a term of endearment though. If you don’t want people using it and want more reprecussions for it then you shouldn’t use it. Point blank period.

  • Pisces3384

    I expect Ryan to take this stance since he’s multiracial. He is an example of the reason why black women don’t always feel supported by the black man. Lily using the word has nothing to do with how she grew up and being poor and from the hood doesn’t excuse it. Not only does she use the word, she uses it and doesn’t even know/understand the context behind it. There are a million other Mexican Americans who grew up the same way and still understand the impact of the word and that it isn’t a word just to spew around because you identify with the people you grew up around.

  • Gina M. Jackson

    Kick your bitch ass mama down the stairs nigga

  • Gina M. Jackson

    Finally somebody said it! Thank you. I agree so much I thought I wrote it!!

  • Texas Boii

    A lot of y’all lack critical thinking. Y’all do know this is a reality show right? Lily is right about the SP situation, y’all didn’t know that nigga like that so stop fucking w em’.

    Another thing, how is JR “your own” when he gets mad he says nigga too, but when Lily checks y’all about the SP situation yall (9Mag) Van and Charmaine calling her racist.

    This is why I brought up critical thinking and reality TV because Charmaine said she brought it up off camera but Lily beat yo ass and Danielle’s! Y’all could’ve easily cancelled her with the racist shit THEN. Again, WHERE’S THAT ENERGY FOR JR? I don’t condone other races using the N word so don’t even come @ me.

    Also Don such a hypocrite because he said something like “We just tryna grow,” or some bs but just last episode you flipped a table over, you too old for that shit.

  • chiraq075

    Foh..everybody in there than said some shit about a wetback,arab,chink ,cracka or fag like I just did either jokingly or out of anger,everybody has that lil hate in them,,Charmaine a fuckin shit starter and faf..fake as fuck

  • Ladyshopper

    1000% agree…smh at Ryan

  • Ladyshopper

    White privilege.

  • Ladyshopper

    Not Ricki Lake…LOL!!

  • Nit18

    He made them both mabagers remember she didn’t get demoted until she started complaining

  • Ladyshopper

    I was thinking the same thing, Ryan talking about I ain’t got no problem with Lilly using the word but the others do….REALLY!!! Can’t stand beer belly Lilly, FF through all of her scenes.

  • Nit18

    someone explain to me why everyone (not afro american) feels like they have the right to say nigga(racist or not) as a multifunctional word. Do we(blacks or others) use spic, wetback, or honkey ass cracker for everyday use?? I don’t get why that world so nationalized but the other racist words aren’t. Someone explain it to me please

  • Ladyshopper

    Right!! Can’t stand Lily, never liked her….be GONE!

  • Benquisha

    Like it’s riddiculous @ this point LET IT GO

  • Benquisha

    yea she was doing too much

  • Nit18

    yes I’ve had the whole “white girl” experience because I can speak very well. Its fucking annoying.

  • Nit18

    I’m confused AF….like who disrespected mexicians or they culture?? Wtf was lily talking bout

  • Kassy Steel

    yeah right???? i dont understand neither

  • Kassy Steel

    nonononononononono
    nononononono
    at the end: …Ryan a blowout? and than the hotiron or hotcurls man stop it..or girl stop it?

  • IGoSillyForAMilli

    Lmao

  • Tina

    Look up the word N***** it mean ignorant so therefore she is racist. And Lily showed it when she called Charmaine a white woman because Charmaine is black an educated that’s racism. Here in South Carolina the City of Charleston I was working at a nursing home and my patient daughter called me a Georgia cracker because she said black people should not be educated only white people. There is no different saying ,what Lily said to Charmaine it is the same

  • ThinkItsNotIllegalYet

    Mitch BYE!!!! U see how this chick tried to flip the script tho with her PRIVILEGED ass… And yes you are a covert racist!!!!!

  • Prive

    So I think Lily is not racist she is just ignorant as fuck. Her whole art show was inspired to make them feel bad for calling her out on her shit. I think we are also clouding our disdain and hater for her by calling her racsist. What made her wrong was the fact that although yes Charmaine could’ve called her on using the N word alot sooner she did and they tried giving her a chance to reflect but she was and is to stubborn and prideful

  • rp

    Lily is racist snake, just that simple!!!

  • FocusedKing

    Boring episode…Will lily come? Will Ryan close the shop? Will phor finally come out the closet? Find out next week on Dragonball Z!

  • Lovë 22

    Exactly! Pick a side nigga, PICK A SIDE! Preferably the black side!

  • BoomShakalaka

    Sorry but that sob story from Lilly posted me off. She refuses to take responsibility for the fact that shes not black & shouldnt say it period. Everytime “people taking it out of contxt/portraying me as something I’m not” . Just shut up and watch you mouth. That’s it.

  • KnowledgeIsPower

    JEN – Sometimes you just have to cut you losses. WHAT must it take, WHAT does he possibly have to do to you for you to cut your losses my dear. He SAYS he values you but his ACTIONS, my sister, do not agree. Get you a man who can do both! #BackItUp

  • KnowledgeIsPower

    Lilly: *tears* the fact that they feel discriminated against *tears* makes me feel discriminated against *tears* = I want the right to call you niggas niggas!!!!
    #ICANT
    I just be wanting to kick Lilly down a flight of stairs for REAL! #Ugggh

  • KnowledgeIsPower

    Dammit! WHYYYYYY is Ryan caping for Lilly!?!?!?!?!!? Its always ONE mofo giving folks passes to use “black cards”. Charmaine wasnt the only one
    IDGAF abt the I’m Mexican American excuse. Latinos – though discriminated against still have racial “privilege” over Black people. In the racial olympics Blacks are still considered the lowest on the totem poll racially/socially. But this is NOT the oppression olympics. STOP comparing your pain to ours to suggest its ok to use language we find offensive. PeriodT.

  • Kiki

    Exactly. All she cares about is her culture and her fellow mexican folk. She’s using the N word, and has never showed any love to any black movements or anything, yet she chooses to use that moment to “educate” us on her culture. FOR WHAT? YOU were the one using the N word and it doesn’t have shit to do with your culture. How about apologizing and acknowledging where you were wrong? But let one of them wear mexican culture outfits or something and I bet she’d have something to say

  • Elisa

    Ding dong the witch is dead, which old witch? The LILY witch! Lol #adioslily

  • KurtwitdaWork

    Jen, if Van keep looking u in your extremely strong facial features, 4eva talm bout “let’s start over”, y’all gon keep going on first dates 10 + years in.. Hamster wheel mf’s. Smh

  • KurtwitdaWork

    Lmao! When Lily was telling the art show dude about having a co-worker who doesn’t like her using the n-word, he was looking like whore, don’t say that shit round me either.. TF?! She thought she had a friend. Then y tf she crying cause people don’t want her saying it.. just stop fuckin sayin the shit, you’ll live.

  • Wonder_Woman15

    so Ryans gets an opportunity again and rachel comes back and fcuks shit up sskghfdss lmao…a sike moment like im back again these fools got to go AGAIN smh Geminis are so wishy washy

  • Russell Smith

    Yea she probably just stopped showing up or something.
    Its messed up what Ryan did honestly. She uprooted her whole life for the job and he downgraded her on one mistake (which she didnt even know was an issue at the time) while others make mistakes all the time.
    We know the truth is Ryan just wanted to look out for Don after he ruined his chance at loyal ink so he was probably waiting for a reason to demote her.

  • Russell Smith

    Im actually glad that Ryan didnt fire lily. Dont get me wrong lily is a train wreck who should be fired from 9mag so it can grow but not that way.
    Cause i agree it really was Charmaine just using that clip to get revenge cause she hates her. I find that to be some bullshit way to try and kick someone out and im glad Ryan defended her from that.
    I just feel Charmaine is fake for using that cause shes heard Lily say the N-word several times and even probably seen that clip before and didnt say shit but now that its circulating again she used it to try and attack lily.

    Lily shouldnt be fired for that but just for her crazy fights and attitude.

  • LOOKIE LOOKIE

    How?

  • Tainesha Richardson

    Latinos and Mexicans are different from each other

  • LOOKIE LOOKIE

    Jen please find some dignity for yourself and your daughter.

  • Justmadeanaccount2

    Why is that white female on the show? She’s not even saying anything….

  • Nik

    I agree wholeheartedly. I didn’t think Ryan was defending Lily nor was he justifying her actions. I think he was being professional and holding her accountable. I can see the growth. He was explaining to her that he understood how she felt she could say it but others aren’t going to perceive it in the same manner. I am sure he stood his ground of staying his truth in how he didn’t agree it. I think he may have looked passed it because of what she could bring to the table as far as business, too, however, don’t sell your soul to the devil… I commend him for trying to make her accountable in the situation, that other people don’t like her using the word, so the ball is in your court. She didn’t own it. I am sure the dialogue continued and he spoke his peace.

    I think he’s going to tell them he’s going to continue the venture in expanding 9Mag but the entire team will stay at the old 9Mag and the a new team will be formed especially to make Rachel feel comfortable, because we have to expect her to come back any day now –

  • zeadlotus

    You can see that shit a long ways away.

  • Wiledev

    Right tho

  • DID I miss something? What happened to his “2nd manager”, I didnt see her quit or anything?

  • Molly

    We need to talk about more important things we know lily isn’t racist her ass is arrogant & a few other things I won’t mention. Lily is not at that place where she can take accountability for her actions. If you was a boss you would’ve apologized for offending an entire group of people who have been oppressed especially if your people deal with oppression too. Real bosses can take constructive criticism not take it as destructive criticism & even if Charmaine was trying to defame her character if she was evolved she would’ve handled it more maturely instead of pointing fingers cause the point is we need to treat each other better period .!

  • Queens Den

    Yessssss, bye Lily

  • Shacora L Jones

    Exactly smh!!! You were spot on, especially with that last statement!

  • Shacora L Jones

    YES!!! Say that shit!! Idk what is worse… the black people who defend it or the non black person making excuses for using it. Smfh. Like I said last episode, the only time on the show that I’ve heard Lily say Nigga is when she’s arguing with one of their black asses. She never says it just randomly on some oh that’s my nigga type shit (which isn’t okay either) but I’m just saying … that tells you everything u need to know right there!

  • Shacora L Jones

    SO LILY IS GONE FROM 9MAG???? YES YES YES!!! GOODBYE!!! adios!!! Finally, it took long enough ! She was draining, manipulative, and terrible for business!!!

  • Dee Cade

    LOL

  • Xoxopinkey

    After watching the Hollywood Unlocked interview with Ryan, I kinda like…I think its more so his story with his sister passing and he how comitted to doing something and went full throttle. But I also feel like he needs to stand tall and firm in what he believes. One min he fucking with Lily, the next he isnt, now he is, and the same thing with the orginal crew.One min you love em, you fire em, rehire em, and now you back to liking em who knows wha’s next? lol btw I had to look up his zodiac and his ass is a Gemini …and it kinda makes sense now. lol

  • Cass32

    How do you run a red light on the interstate?

  • Queens Den

    How do you know she not? You do know these shows are edited to the point it changes the narrative . Follow her IG and then you’ll see the real Charmaine.

  • Cass32

    Ryan should have had the same energy in front of Chairman and called her out on her shit. Instead if pacifying her and letting her think the way she went about things was okay.

  • REALLY NIGGA!?

    rine! smdh

  • Jh

    It never fails that when a racist gets called out by black women, there’s that one coon who needs to defend the racist. And it never fails that non black POC try to use that excuse of “struggle” to defend them using that word. You ain’t laughing it off when folks user racial slurs with you, sit there and eat your food, and stfu.

  • Cass32

    Charmaine calling herself an activist is like me combing my hair into a ponytail and saying I’m a beautician. Just because you say it, doesnt it make it so

  • Xoxopinkey

    Lily, bitch stfu!

  • Jh

    Charmaine never looks like she bathes properly.

  • Shacora L Jones

    Yeah she is annoying as hell. She never ever ever is on chill. She has to be extra ALL THE TIME.

  • VanellaLove

    SO nobody notice that Lilly plate disappeared ????!!!!

  • LaNiece Robinson

    I’m start getting my George Jefferson on and see how muthafuka’s like that…

  • LaNiece Robinson

    That’s the shit that racists do to try and make it seem as if they’re not racist because the only people that will truly help them are black…Once they don’t need our support they will be the true them an open racist….

  • Gzmain

    How tf Lily is going to try to flip saying nigga to our comparing our cultures struggle? The only people who say nigga in Mexico is other Mexicans describing Black people. Also, how tf did Charmaine get black women to protest in the cold off of a “if he did it”? They fucking WGCI up with that bs.

  • The Caribbean Empress
  • DREAM KARDASHIANS STROLLER

    Jenn was angry af when she drew on her eyebrows. Ole “PROVE ITTTT!” headass

  • Frogalicious

    I’m glad to see Phor’s back. Hope he’s doing better.

  • Ziolashine22

    Let’s see wat is going on

  • Blah

    God I can’t stand Charmaine…she’s grosses me out and her personality irritates me.